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CAL
November 10th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Link (http://www.kvue.com/news/APD-officer-who-shot-Sanders-suspended--69174832.html)



Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo Wednesday announced the officer who shot and killed Nathaniel Sanders in Central East Austin in May will be suspended. The announcement comes on the heels of a discipline hearing, which began Wednesday morning.
Officer Leonardo Quintana will be suspended for 15 days for violating departmental policy and not turning on his dashboard camera. One of the two other officers who responded to the scene, Officer Mohammad Siddiqui, was also suspended for three days for not activating his car's dashboard camera.
"That failure to not have that mobile vehicle recording device on created a fire storm of controversy that not for that failure would've existed, and that was in my estimation a serious policy violation," Acevedo said.
Dashboard camera video from a third officer's patrol car shows Quintana firing his gun multiple times into the back of a parked car. Sanders, 18, who was in the car, was hit and killed.
A grand jury cleared Officer Leonardo Quintana of any criminal charges.
During an afternoon news conference, Chief Acevedo said a thorough analysis of the facts led him to conclude that the use of force against Sanders was reasonable.
"I think it's important for people to understand that the use of force -- to me the most important piece of this incident -- is whether or not Officer Quintana was justified in shooting, and I will say that anybody that looks at the totality of the facts (that) would say that he was not entitled to defend himself, I would say they're not being honest with themselves, and, quite frankly, I don't think they're being reasonable," Acevedo said.
Quintana was also exonerated of charges that he failed to identify himself as a police officer. Acevedo said Quintana was wearing a distinct uniform with a badge and all of the required patches and that a reasonable person would have recognized him as an officer.
As a result of the Sanders shooting, new policies went into effect Wednesday regarding the use of dashboard cameras. Officers must now use them more often. Also, if they are found to intentionally not turn on their cameras in serious situations like what happened in the Sanders case, they will receive an indefinite suspension.
Last week, KVUE News reported that police were conducting their own investigation into the internal affairs officers who handled the initial investigation. That comes in response to an independent review that found APD's internal affairs report showed bias toward the officers involved.
Acevedo had until November 7 to make his decision. Quintana has 10 days to appeal his suspension.

Feet
November 11th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah the Chief was looking for some way to fire him but only suspended him for a camera violation. Absolutely NOTHING related to the tactics or use of force regarding the shooting. That is like suspending you for not shining your boots after you survived a gun battle with bank robbers. Ridiculous.

The usual suspension for this violation is normally 1 or 2 days per previous suspensions but when you are the Chief you do not need to follow rules or be consistent or impartial, you can just make shit up.:gag:

CAL
November 11th, 2009, 10:54 AM
Ridiculous. :thdn:

Is this a big city thing or a political thing or both? It seems to me this sort of thing wouldn't happen in a smaller agency.

Feet
November 11th, 2009, 10:59 AM
Political. We are under the thumb of a liberal city council/city manager who hired a chief from Commiefornia. They try to fire anybody involved in a shoting even though EVERY one of our shootings has been no billed by the grand jury and the officers have had no criminal violations.
The city hates us using ANY level of force (a la liberals) and they try to hammer our weenies when we do ANYTHING proactive. I have a dozen instances where I can define this theory this but I will not elaborate on this site.

CAL
November 11th, 2009, 11:13 AM
I forgot - it is Austin. :gay:

Feet
November 11th, 2009, 11:16 AM
San Antonio shoots more people in a month than we do in a year. Our shootings get about 20 times more scrutiny and negative press than theirs. I have watched the news in Austin and SA during these incidents and the differences are disgusting.
It is one of the negatives of working for a liberal city. Your job by nature is conservative since you enforce current laws. Liberal gubments tend to be weak in enforcement and prosecution of these laws.

It is kind of like they NEED to have the police in Austin but they don't really WANT us to do our jobs because it interferes with the dope smoking, illegal alien hugging policies THEY embrace.:jerk:

Shadowcop92
November 11th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Amazing just fricking amazing

CAL
November 12th, 2009, 10:15 AM
San Antonio shoots more people in a month than we do in a year.
That's somewhat of a joke around here. SAPD doesn't want to pursue suspects so they just shoot them. :heh:

fn/form
November 12th, 2009, 09:19 PM
15 days for not turning on your camera. I can see a few days due to the importance of the case, but 15 is absolute kowtow libtard BS. No wonder APD has one of the highest pay scales...

Talk about fostering an Us vs. Them mentality...